Talkin‘ Politics & Religion Without Killin‘ Each Other

Politics and Religion. We’re not supposed to talk about that, right? Wrong! We only say that nowadays because the loudest, most extreme voices have taken over the whole conversation. Well, we‘re taking some of that space back! If you’re dying for some dialogue instead of all the yelling; if you know it’s okay to have differences without having to hate each other; if you believe politics and religion are too important to let ”the screamers” drown out the rest of us and would love some engaging, provocative and fun conversations about this stuff, then ”Talkin‘ Politics & Religion Without Killin‘ Each Other” is for you!
Politics and Religion. We’re not supposed to talk about that, right? Wrong! We only say that nowadays because the loudest, most extreme voices have taken over the whole conversation. Well, we‘re taking some of that space back! If you’re dying for some dialogue instead of all the yelling; if you know it’s okay to have differences without having to hate each other; if you believe politics and religion are too important to let ”the screamers” drown out the rest of us and would love some engaging, provocative and fun conversations about this stuff, then ”Talkin‘ Politics & Religion Without Killin‘ Each Other” is for you!
Episodes
Episodes



Thursday Sep 12, 2024
Thursday Sep 12, 2024
So who won the debate? And will it matter?
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In this special cross-over episode with our pal Will Wright of the Faithful Politics Podcast, we discuss our impressions of the debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. We highlight key moments, such as Harris's ninja move at the top (i.e. the handshake) and her ability to set traps for Trump throughout the rest of the 90 minute exchange. We also discuss the importance of reaching undecided voters and the impact of the debate on different constituencies. We explore the candidates' performance, missed opportunities, policy discussions, and the potential impact on the election. We also speculate on the future of the campaign and the importance of the ground game and swing states.
"She was setting the tone and the tone was 'Hello young man. I know you're a toddler, but this is what grownups do when they say hello to each other.'"
"She pitched a shutout, she didn't pitch a no-hitter, but she pitched a shutout.""Donald Trump was fired by 81 million people and clearly he's having a hard time processing that.""This is the strongest performance that I've seen in a presidential debate."
https://www.faithfulpoliticspodcast.com/
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Sunday Sep 08, 2024
Had a good conversation with a Trump supporter. No, really.
Sunday Sep 08, 2024
Sunday Sep 08, 2024
Is it possible to have a healthy conversation with someone who's voting differently than we are? Who has a very different interpretation of key events than we do? Who has different concerns than we do? Yeah, it is possible. And here's a conversation where we give it a whirl.
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In this episode, we’re joined by Corey’s pal, Chip Meyer, an entrepreneur, technologist, and business consultant. Chip has supported Trump in 2016, 2020 and will be voting for him again in 2024. This record and many of Chip’s policy positions are far apart from Corey’s. So we explore political philosophy, the impact of the Reagan era, libertarian views, and the current state of American democracy, touching on controversies like the 2020 election and the future of the Republican Party. Our discourse delves into complex political topics including voter fraud, media bias, and party dynamics, among much else. And yet, we were able to have a healthy back and forth and still look forward to grabbing a beer (or whatever drink of choice) at one of our favorite watering holes soon. No, really.
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Thursday Sep 05, 2024
Thursday Sep 05, 2024
Bottom line: What's at stake in the 2024 U.S. election? And what does the pro-democracy coalition have to do to win?
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In this episode, Reed Galen, co-founder of the Lincoln Project and "the pretty face" who launched jointheunion.us, shares his extensive experience in political campaigning and his views on the 2024 election. He delves into his current efforts with The Union, a coalition focused on pro-democracy initiatives, emphasizing the importance of grassroots mobilization. We also discuss his new chapter in podcasting and writing on The Home Front, his substack and podcast where he continues in the spirit of the work he's been doing with the Lincoln Project. Reed then reflects on his father Rich Galen's political legacy and discusses the challenges of maintaining relationships amidst today's polarized political climate. Offering personal anecdotes and practical advice, Reed highlights the significance of engaging in constructive conversations and the difference "boots on the ground" can make in actually winning elections.
https://jointheunion.us/
https://reedgalen.substack.com/
https://x.com/reedgalen
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Monday Sep 02, 2024
Monday Sep 02, 2024
What's it like to get pounded by folks who passionately object to one's theological orthodoxy and political conservatism? And then to get mercilessly attacked for speaking out against the hypocrisy being exhibited by other supposed conservatives?
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In this much anticipated conversation with New York Times columnist David French, we discuss the health of democracy, judicial and political issues, potential outcomes of a second Trump presidency, and the complexities of interacting with opposing viewpoints. David shares personal anecdotes, including his wife Nancy French's battle with cancer, insights into dealing with dishonesty within political movements and religious communities, and how these latest chapters of American Christendom have tested his own faith.
We delve into
The impact of polarized environments on political and social discourse
Insights into the current state of American Christendom versus Christianity
The judicial philosophy and significant rulings of the current U.S. Supreme Court
Strategies for engaging in meaningful conversations across political and ideological divides
Personal reflections on navigating public and private challenges with faith and integrity.
David Lee Roth... no wait... David French! David French is an Opinion columnist with the New York Times who writes about faith, friendship, marriage and parenting as well as foreign affairs and the latest developments in American constitutional law. He also writes about religion in America, with a particular focus on the health of the evangelical church. David graduated from Harvard Law and was a commercial litigator for a number of years, and then ultimately switched to constitutional law. Remarkably, well into his legal career, David decided to serve our country as an Army lawyer with the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment in Diyala Province in Iraq during the height of the Surge in 2007. After spending much of his career defending free speech, religious freedom and due process in courtrooms across the country, David joined National Review as a senior writer, but left in 2019 to help start The Dispatch, a conservative media company, where he continues to contribute to their "flagship" podcast Advisory Opinions. He also became a contributing writer for The Atlantic. And just last year, he joined The Times.
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Advisory Opinions, the flagship podcast of The Dispatch: https://thedispatch.com/podcast/advisoryopinions/
https://www.nytimes.com/by/david-french
https://www.threads.net/@davidfrenchjag



Thursday Aug 29, 2024
Thursday Aug 29, 2024
Ask an old Jewish guy from Brooklyn a question, and he's sure to answer with another question, a bissle of "on the one hand... but on the other hand..." and a megillah that involves a whole lot of talking over each other!
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In this episode, we’re treated to the highly anticipated return of Ronnie Nathan, aka Corey’s dad and that guy from Bensonhurst referred to above! Ronnie recounts his political evolution from a democratic family background to his active engagement in politics, influenced by historic events like Kennedy's assassination, the Vietnam War, and the Civil Rights movement. We discuss contemporary political issues, the significance of election demographics, and the potential outcomes of the Harris-Walz ticket versus Trump. Then we delve into the challenges of maintaining a civil discourse on divisive topics, offering a generational perspective on current affairs and political dynamics.
00:53 Ronnie's Early Political Influences
03:27 Vietnam War and Cultural Shifts
06:28 Nixon and Political Disillusionment
07:49 Contemporary Political Issues
08:23 Trump and Jewish Identity
10:23 Netanyahu and Israeli Politics
21:31 Kamala Harris and Voter Sentiments
35:17 Analyzing the Harris Campaign's Strategy
37:59 Economic Impact of Mass Deportation
40:14 Congressional Approval and Tariffs
41:39 VP Picks and Election Dynamics
47:41 Concerns About National Security and Debt
49:37 Election Predictions and Potential Outcomes
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Tuesday Aug 27, 2024
A Tale of 2 Conventions and the State of the 2024 Race
Tuesday Aug 27, 2024
Tuesday Aug 27, 2024
Will the worship of Trump and further consolidation of the MAGA base be a winning strategy? Or will themes like joy, freedom, patriotism and the strategy of expanding the coalition lift the Democrats to victory?
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In this episode, we do a comprehensive comparison between the 2024 Republican National Convention (RNC) and the Democratic National Convention (DNC). We highlight key takeaways from both events, noting the overt 'Trump worship' at the RNC and the strategic emphasis on mocking Trump at the DNC. There is a focus on differences in messaging, with the RNC catering to its established base while the DNC aimed to broaden its appeal. We also reflect on the contrasting themes of manliness, patriotism, and freedom reclaimed by the DNC. Additionally, we cover candidate suitability, campaign strategies, and the significance of the electoral process.
03:02 State of the Race: Conventions Recap
07:52 Mockery as a Strategy
12:21 Themes of the Democratic National Convention
16:41 Contrasting Leadership Styles
22:05 Expanding the Tent: Republican Speakers at the DNC
23:39 Support for Israel and Ukraine
27:11 Protests and Media Coverage
29:08 Personal Reflections and Joy in the Campaign
34:39 Concerns and Support for Harris-Walz Ticket
46:20 Current State of the Race and Polls
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Friday Aug 23, 2024
Adam Kinzinger, COUNTRY FIRST, former U.S. Congressman (R, IL)
Friday Aug 23, 2024
Friday Aug 23, 2024
After former Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger delivered a kick-ass primetime speech at the Democratic National Convention, we thought it would be good to re-boot our conversation with him here.
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"Bringing people together to learn how to do democracy again. And we're gonna go after the crazies in the political environment that do not have the interest of the country at heart." - Adam Kinzinger
Rep. Adam Kinzinger served with integrity during his time in the U.S. Congress as well as the Air Force. Yet, the mere mention of his name sends a certain ex-President (HINT: rhymes with Shmump) as well as many of that ex-prez's most loyal followers into a rage. So it was a special honor for us to speak with former Congressman Kinzinger. Having served in Congress from 2011 to 2023 and on notable committees such as the House Select Committee investigating the January 6 Capitol attack, he discusses the challenges of political extremism, the importance of compromise, and his journey from a conservative upbringing to questioning his beliefs, while staying true to deeply rooted, unimpeachable values. He addresses the toxicity of social media, the need for reconciliation across political and religious spectrums, and his work with Country First, aimed at promoting democracy and moderating political discourse. Adam's reflections on his faith, encounters with extremism, and the significance of genuine conversation across differences provide a nuanced perspective on navigating the complexities of current American political and religious landscapes.
Congressman Adam Kinzinger served in the U.S. House of Representatives from 2011 to 2023, representing Illinois’ 16th Congressional District. During his tenure, he served on the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol, as well as the House Committee on Energy and Commerce and the House Foreign Affairs Committee. Rep. Kinzinger is the founder of Country First, an organization that works to activate the MUTED Majority to reject division and seek proven solutions to the challenges not being addressed by our leaders. He is also the author of RENEGADE: DEFENDING DEMOCRACY AND LIBERTY IN OUR DIVIDED COUNTRY. Prior to being elected to Congress, he served in the Air Force in both Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom. He is a Lieutenant Colonel in the Air National Guard and a Senior Political Commentator on CNN.
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adamkinzinger.substack.com
www.country1st.com
www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/723495/renegade-by-adam-kinzinger-with-michael-dantonio/



Sunday Aug 18, 2024
Sunday Aug 18, 2024
In the 20th Century, we had Cold War adversaries. In the early 2000s, George W. Bush talked about the Axis of Evil. But are those frameworks the most accurate way to understand the forces attempting to undermine not just democratic nations but democratic ideas? And to what degree have these antagonists - those that are fundamentally opposed to our core principles such as the freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly and basic human rights - pervaded U.S. politics?
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In this episode we welcome Anne Applebaum, Pulitzer-prize winning historian, staff writer at The Atlantic and senior fellow at the Agora Institute at Johns Hopkins University. After discussing her motivations, experiences, and insights into the autocratic regimes and their impacts on global democracy, we dive into Anne’s new book Autocracy, Inc.: The Dictators Who Want to Run the World. We explore how autocracies collaborate, ways the rest of the world is complicit in autocratic behaviors, and strategies to combat these influences. The conversation also touches on Anne's personal history and initial fascination with the history, literature, culture and politics of the “Borderlands,” a region that includes Poland, Belarus, Ukraine, Russia and beyond.
01:53 Anne's Early Career and Inspirations
16:29 The Concept of Autocracy, Inc.
29:44 Global Complicity in Autocracy
34:39 Hamas and Global Destabilization
37:05 Trump's Influence and Dictator Admiration
39:17 Russian Propaganda and Dark Money in US Politics
42:37 Autocracy, Inc. and Democratic Values
52:43 Engaging in Local Politics and Understanding the Big Picture
anneapplebaum.substack.com
www.anneapplebaum.com/book/autocracy
www.theatlantic.com/author/anne-applebaum
The Atlantic Festival: theatlantic.com/live/atlantic-festival-2024
AUTOCRACY IN AMERICA podcast - www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/archive/2024/08/introducing-autocracy-in-america/679474/
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