
Politics and Religion. We’re not supposed to talk about that, right? Wrong! We only say that nowadays because the loudest, most extreme voices have taken over the whole conversation. Well, we‘re taking some of that space back! If you’re dying for some dialogue instead of all the yelling; if you know it’s okay to have differences without having to hate each other; if you believe politics and religion are too important to let ”the screamers” drown out the rest of us and would love some engaging, provocative and fun conversations about this stuff, then ”Talkin‘ Politics & Religion Without Killin‘ Each Other” is for you!
Episodes

Sunday Jul 03, 2022
Sunday Jul 03, 2022
This is a bonus TP&R episode of Faithful Politics with our good friends Josh Burtram and Will Wright when they interviewed Amanda Carpenter of The Bulwark.
Gaslighting is a tactic in which a person or entity, in order to gain more power, makes a victim question their reality. Enter former-President Trump. Over the last four years, America has been under the influence of a person who seemingly graduated from Gaslighting University with a Ph.D. in Alternative Facts. Whether Trump knows it or not, he is masterful in the art of gaslighting-jitsu. The guest this week may know a thing or two about being gaslit, as she has been the target of this Trump tactic, Amanda Carpenter joins Will and Josh to discuss her book, Gaslighting America: Why We Love It When Trump Lies to Us. They also discuss the future of the Republican Party, and how faith played a key role in her life during one of the most heinous acts perpetrated by the Trump campaign during 2016 primaries.
Amanda Carpenter is a political commentator for CNN and author of GASLIGHTING AMERICA: Why We Love It When Trump Lies To Us. Prior to CNN she was the Communications Director for Senator Ted Cruz and previously served as Senior Communications Advisor and Speechwriter to Sen. Jim DeMint.
For both senators, Carpenter crafted countless op-eds, speeches, talking points, briefing papers, jokes, press releases, tweets, Facebook posts, and other materials on a range of subjects before the United States Senate, including but not limited to economics, campaigns, healthcare, foreign affairs, and constitutional matters. Her work for them has been published in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Washington Post, and other outlets.
Roll Call featured her in a 2014 front-page profile, "Ted Cruz's Twitter Torrent: Outspoken GOP Aide Takes on Own Party" calling her "Capitol Hill's most-followed staffer" on Twitter with more than 56,000 followers.
In 2013, she led the creation of Cruz’s viral #MakeDCListen speech and campaign that pollster Frank Luntz said produced "the best political sound-byte of 2013.” In 2011, she was named by the Washington Post as one of the "Top 10 Capitol Hill Staffers to Watch."
https://www.faithfulpoliticspodcast.com/
https://www.thebulwark.com/author/amanda-carpenter/
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/gaslighting-america-amanda-carpenter/1126314531?ean=9780062748003

Monday Jun 27, 2022
Monday Jun 27, 2022
Susan Del Percio is a highly accomplished political strategist and crisis communications consultant who is a political analyst for MSNBC as well as a contributor to Know Your Value - Mika Brzezinski's initiative that is helping women to grow their career, form healthy habits and reach their full potential. Susan is also a regular on one of our favorite podcasts Politicology. Appointed as a Special Advisor to Governor Andrew Cuomo in 2014, she initiated and implemented communication strategies, and advised and developed policy initiatives. Susan also served as Deputy Commissioner in the Giuliani Administration prior to founding her firm in 2001 which serves private corporate clients, leading elected officials, political organizations and candidates as well as non-profits. Susan is also a Distinguished Lecturer at Emerson College where she received both her Bachelor and Master’s degrees.
In this conversation we cover a lot of ground including the sad decline of Rudy Giuliani as someone who worked for him when he was Mayor of NYC; how it was to go to work for a Democratic Governor after having been in Republican politics; her experience of being in New York on 9/11 and what it was like in the days and weeks after that historic day; what it cost her, as a longtime Republican strategist, to be an early critic of Donald Trump and Trumpism; we get into one of our favorite pods Politicology, of course; whether the GOP can be redeemed; and Susan gives some candid advice to Democrats for the 2022 midterms and beyond.
https://twitter.com/DelPercioS
https://www.msnbc.com/knowyourvalue
https://politicology.com/

Monday Jun 20, 2022
Jonathan Rauch (Part 2) - THE CONSTITUTION OF KNOWLEDGE: A DEFENSE OF TRUTH
Monday Jun 20, 2022
Monday Jun 20, 2022
In the 2nd part of our conversation with Jonathan Rauch, we do a deeper dive into his timely, ground breaking book THE CONSTITUTION OF KNOWLEDGE: A DEFENSE OF TRUTH. We discuss its goals of peace, freedom and knowledge; why authoritarians hate the Constitution of Knowledge; how to diagnose and resist the ills of disinformation and cancel culture; the effects of cancel culture such as "the spiral of silence"; how, at its center, the MAGA movement is all about disinformation; and how to transform the world by planting the seeds of big ideas.
JONATHAN RAUCH, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, is the author of eight books and many articles on public policy, culture, and government. He is a contributing writer for The Atlantic and recipient of the 2005 National Magazine Award, the magazine industry’s equivalent of the Pulitzer Prize. His latest book, The Constitution of Knowledge: A Defense of Truth is a deep-diving account of how to push back against disinformation, canceling, and other new threats to our fact-based epistemic order. His writing has also appeared in many other publications including The Economist, Time, The New York Times, The New York Daily News, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, The New York Post, Slate, and others. Jonathan graduated from Yale University. He is the recipient of numerous national and international awards for his writing and has appeared as a guest on many television and radio programs. But perhaps most remarkably, he does not like shrimp!
www.jonathanrauch.com/about.html
www.theatlantic.com/author/jonathan-rauch/
www.brookings.edu/experts/jonathan-rauch/
https://www.brookings.edu/book/the-constitution-of-knowledge/

Thursday Jun 16, 2022
TP&R Trailer Spring/Summer ’22
Thursday Jun 16, 2022
Thursday Jun 16, 2022
Grateful to be able to talk about politics and religion without killin' each other!
www.linkedin.com/company/tpandrpod
...and our host

Monday Jun 13, 2022
Monday Jun 13, 2022
This is part 1 of our conversation with Jonathan Rauch. We had to have Jon back for a follow up because, as you'll hear, he's such a genuine, inquisitive fellow, he ended up asking Corey more questions than the other way around. We touch upon a number of big ideas like the existence of God; how the gospel of Jesus contrasts with the way a lot of self-professed Christians act; the trauma gay Americans have had to endure from Christians; Jon also talks about amazing Christians he's gotten to know and the concept of grace; and how we can make religion less stupid.
JONATHAN RAUCH, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, is the author of eight books and many articles on public policy, culture, and government. He is a contributing writer for The Atlantic and recipient of the 2005 National Magazine Award, the magazine industry’s equivalent of the Pulitzer Prize. His latest book, The Constitution of Knowledge: A Defense of Truth is a deep-diving account of how to push back against disinformation, canceling, and other new threats to our fact-based epistemic order. His writing has also appeared in many other publications including The Economist, Time, The New York Times, The New York Daily News, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, The New York Post, Slate, and others. Jonathan graduated from Yale University. He is the recipient of numerous national and international awards for his writing and has appeared as a guest on many television and radio programs. But perhaps most remarkably, he does not like shrimp!
www.jonathanrauch.com/about.html
www.theatlantic.com/author/jonathan-rauch/
www.brookings.edu/experts/jonathan-rauch/
www.amazon.com/Constitution-Knowledge-Jonathan-Rauch/dp/0815738862/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0

Monday May 30, 2022
Monday May 30, 2022
In this conversation with Sadhvi Bhagawati Saraswati, we discuss the "equation" we've been given to be happy and how unhappy that's left many of us; how she experienced a radical and seemingly impossible forgiveness; when religion gets it right; some of the core tenets of being Hindu; the power of a name; and the "groundwork and grand work" that Sadhviji is a part of among a number of other meaningful topics.
Sadhvi Bhagawati Saraswati, PhD is a renowned spiritual leader in India. She is President of Divine Shakti Foundation, a charitable organization bringing education and empowerment to women and children. She is Secretary-General of Global Interfaith WASH Alliance, launched by UNICEF, the first alliance of religious leaders for Water, Sanitation and Hygiene. Sadhviji is also Director of the world-famous International Yoga Festival. Originally from Los Angeles, and a graduate of Stanford University, Sadhviji has lived at Parmarth Niketan, Rishikesh in the Himalayas for 25 years, where she gives spiritual discourses, satsang and meditation, and leads myriad humanitarian programs.

Monday May 23, 2022
Monday May 23, 2022
Today we're joined by Liz Joyner and Vanessa Rowse of the Village Square. Liz is the Founder and CEO and Vanessa is the Podcast Producer of their great podcast Village SquareCast.
We get into all kinds of important, timely topics including
- how we're all living in this "high energy environment";
- the "us vs. them dynamic" and what the solution is;
- the value of actually getting together in person;
- how the Village Square is able to get people of diverse views in the same venue together;
- how the first casualty in this environment is nuance;
- and being played by the "conflict entrepreneurs";
- in addition to a lot more ground we cover.
The Village Square is a nonprofit organization devoted to building vibrant civil dialogue across partisan and ideological divides on matters of local, state, and national importance in communities across America. Founded in Tallahassee, Florida in 2006 after a contentious debate on a local issue, the Village Square builds social civic community in a 21st century revival of the old-fashioned American town hall. The Village Square offers a menu of cutting-edge civic engagement programs, many in partnership with local government.
https://tlh.villagesquare.us/
https://pod.link/1520059234

Monday May 16, 2022
Monday May 16, 2022
Why are more and more young people leaving religion? Is religion the only way we can define our values? From what sources do nonreligious folks derive shared morals? We explore all these questions and much more, such as how the Secular Student Alliance is providing a point of connection for nonreligious students all over the country. We discuss secular and humanistic values, how SSA has been received on campuses, and of course we get into plenty of politics.
Kevin Bolling is the Executive Director of the Secular Student Alliance, an educational nonprofit and the only national organization dedicated to atheist, humanist, and other non-theist students. Kevin has served as the executive director of SSA since 2017 and has over 20 years of nonprofit leadership experience. His career has included over 10 years of student association management and on-campus program development from Los Angeles to Boston as well as serving in leadership positions with the California Thoroughbred Horsemen’s Foundation and the Gay Men's Chorus of Los Angeles.
https://secularstudents.org/

Monday May 09, 2022
Monday May 09, 2022
Brian Kaylor is the President and Editor-in-Chief of Word and Way (a Christian media company founded in 1896), he’s Associate Director of Churchnet and the host of an excellent podcast called Dangerous Dogma. Brian is also a prolific author, most recently of the books For God’s Sake, Shut Up!: Lessons for Christians on How to Speak Effectively and When to Remain Silent and Vote Your Principles: Party Must Not Trump Principles. Brian has a Ph.D. in Communication from the University of Missouri, and serves the Baptist World Alliance as chair of the Communication Advisory Committee and chair of the Resolutions Committee. He is a board member for the Baptist Peace Fellowship of North America and for the St. Louis Chapter of Americans United for Separation of Church and State. Brian has also taught college courses in advocacy studies, political communication, research methods, and public speaking.
Brian and Corey discuss a number of pertinent issues including how pastors are having to conform with their parishioners politics; a daunting comparison - that would be surprising to some - between the faith of Barack Obama and that of Donald Trump; the nature of faith and the opposite of faith; and we also discuss the separation of church and state among a number of other topics.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dangerous-dogma/id1570193355

Monday May 02, 2022
Monday May 02, 2022
"There's a gap between the realistic possible and the actual...and what can we do about it?" That's a premise we explore with our renowned guest, Dr. Rick Hanson, across numerous domains from the very personal to the political. Along with special co-host Savannah Nathan, we discuss the scientific observations of the benefits of meditation; Buddhism as a psychology and not necessarily a religion; and the nature of the mind and how it works. We also get into plenty of politics from unique traits humans developed over millions of years to many of the problems that ail us today to a simple yet ambitious vision Rick has articulated in the 2100 Project.
Rick Hanson, Ph.D., is a psychologist, Senior Fellow of the Greater Good Science Center at UC Berkeley, and is a New York Times best-selling author of such impactful books including NeuroDharma, Resilient, Hardwiring Happiness, Buddha’s Brain, Just One Thing, and Mother Nurture. He’s lectured at NASA, Google, Oxford, and Harvard, and taught in meditation centers worldwide. An expert on positive neuroplasticity, his work has been featured on the BBC, CBS, NPR, on his podcast that he co-hosts with his son Forrest Hanson Being Well and other major media. He began meditating in 1974 and is the founder of the Wellspring Institute for Neuroscience and Contemplative Wisdom.
Here are some helpful links:
www.rickhanson.net/being-well-podcast/
www.rickhanson.net/books/neurodharma/#order
www.wisebrain.org/wellspring-institute
www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17439760.2021.2006759
https://www.positiveneuroplasticity.com/

Monday Apr 18, 2022
Monday Apr 18, 2022
Kaitlyn Schiess is a writer and author who’s studying for her doctorate in political theology, ethics and biblical interpretation at Duke Divinity School and has earned her ThM in systematic theology from Dallas Theological Seminary. In 2020, Kaitlyn’s book The Liturgy of Politics: Spiritual Formation for the Sake of Our Neighbor created quite a stir. She has also written about theology, politics, and culture in outlets such as Christianity Today, The New York Times, Sojourners, several other national publications and is rather prolific on Twitter!
We cover a lot of ground in this conversation. Part of Kaitlyn's journey that is unique is that not a lot of people start out at Liberty Univ. for undergrad and then end up at Duke Divinity for their doctoral work. It was interesting to hear Kaitlyn's thoughts about where many of her Liberty classmates stand in terms of politics and theology today. We also talked about "What story am I buying into?" and how our paradigms affect how we interpret what's happening in the world. We went on to assess some of the problems that ail our culture in the church and more broadly, and we explore prescriptions of how we might be able to move forward.
https://twitter.com/KaitlynSchiess

Wednesday Apr 13, 2022
Wednesday Apr 13, 2022
Here's Part 2 of our conversation with Chuck Rocha and Mike Madrid, picking up where we left off. In Part 1, we had a chance to talk with Chuck, who's best known for running Bernie Sanders 2020 campaign and then getting out the vote in the critical state of Nevada in the general election for Biden. In this part of the conversation Mike Madrid, co-founder of the Lincoln Project, jumps in to offer his thoughts about what both parties are getting wrong in terms of understanding and reaching Latino voters. And yes, the terms "Latinx" does come up! We also talk about why 1 Republican and 1 Democrat, both national strategists, often adversaries on campaigns, would come together to collaborate on their excellent new podcast THE LATINO VOTE.
Mike Madrid is a national political strategist, an expert in demographics and Latino voters. Mike’s academic work on Latino politics became the foundation for groundbreaking communications and outreach strategies in California, Texas, Florida and nationwide. Later, Mike was a co-founder of the Lincoln Project which played a significant part in defeating Donald Trump. Mike also lectures on race, class and partisanship at USC.
Chuck Rocha became National Political Director of the United Steel Workers of America at 29 and was also the first person of color hired to that position. In 2010, Chuck founded Solidarity Strategies, a nonprofit and political consulting firm built on diversity, inclusion and mentorship opportunities for the next generation of minority professionals. He went on to advise on both Bernie Sanders campaigns and is the first Latino to run a presidential campaign.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-latino-vote/id1613279254
https://twitter.com/madrid_mike

Monday Apr 11, 2022
Monday Apr 11, 2022
On Part 1 of our conversation with Chuck Rocha and Mike Madrid, we get right into it. First with Chuck, who's best known for running Bernie Sanders 2020 campaign and then getting out the vote in the critical state of Nevada in the general election for Biden. We look behind the curtain at what national parties are getting wrong when it comes to reaching and engaging the Latino vote. We also talk about what's even more important than particular Democratic or Republican issues that he and Mike Madrid, often his adversary on campaigns, would come together to collaborate on their excellent new podcast THE LATINO VOTE.
Chuck Rocha became National Political Director of the United Steel Workers of America at 29 and was also the first person of color hired to that position. In 2010, Chuck founded Solidarity Strategies, a nonprofit and political consulting firm built on diversity, inclusion and mentorship opportunities for the next generation of minority professionals. He went on to advise on both Bernie Sanders campaigns and is the first Latino to run a presidential campaign.
Mike Madrid is a national political strategist, an expert in demographics and Latino politics. Mike’s academic work on Latino politics became the foundation for groundbreaking communications and outreach strategies in California, Texas, Florida and nationwide. Later, Mike was a co-founder of the Lincoln Project which played a significant part in defeating Donald Trump. Mike also lectures on race, class and partisanship at USC.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-latino-vote/id1613279254
https://twitter.com/madrid_mike
https://twitter.com/ChuckRocha
https://www.solidaritystrategies.com/
TIO BERNIE: THE INSIDE STORY OF HOW BERNIE SANDERS BROUGHT LATINOS INTO THE POLITICAL REVOLUTION - https://www.amazon.com/T%C3%ADo-Bernie-Sanders-Political-Revolution/dp/1947492527

Monday Mar 28, 2022
Monday Mar 28, 2022
Michael David Cobb Bowen is co-founder and co-editor of Free Black Thought - a group of scholars, technologists, parents, and citizens determined to amplify vital black voices that are rarely heard on mainstream platforms. Michael is a Business Intelligence professional and Data Engineer, he is a past contributor to NPR, Young Republicans and TV One, and is an essayist at Stoic Observations. Michael might describe himself as an entrepreneur, foodie, anti-fragile, true neutral, audiophile, gearhead, hacker, shooter and ooda buddha. We discuss all that and even talk a little jazz!
https://www.freeblackthought.com/
https://mdcbowen.substack.com/

Monday Mar 21, 2022
Monday Mar 21, 2022
John Popper is a singer, songwriter and one of the world's greatest harmonica players. He's the longtime frontman of Blues Traveler (which happens to be one of, if not my favorite band ever!) and has jammed with any number of virtuosos across multiple genres of music. Of course, we talk about the music, his influences and inspirations, but we also get into plenty of politics and religion!
As our special co-host we were joined by Matt Lewis of THE DAILY BEAST. This interview can also be heard on Matt's awesome podcast MATT LEWIS AND THE NEWS.
https://twitter.com/blues_traveler
https://twitter.com/mattklewis

Monday Mar 14, 2022
Monday Mar 14, 2022
In this conversation with Melanie Ross of Yale Divinity School, we explore the music in American Evangelical churches; what the worship music says about the people of particular churches; how politics, and specifically Trump, was discussed during services and other church gatherings; and how to make space to have healthier dialogue and to listen to each other well. Melanie also shares about her cancer diagnosis in 2014, her 2 year recovery process and how different the political landscape was when she returned to her research for this project in 2016.
Dr. Melanie Ross is Associate Professor of liturgical studies at the Yale Divinity School. She studies North American contemporary evangelical worship, and argues that the common ground shared by evangelical and liturgical churches is much more important than the differences that divide them. She most recently authored the book, EVANGELICAL WORSHIP: AN AMERICAN MOSAIC. Plus, she and co-host Jessica Stone went to high school together! So we get to hear some tidbits about what Jess was like as a teenager.

Monday Feb 28, 2022
Monday Feb 28, 2022
Dr. Napp Nazworth joined us to discuss how one of the country's leading Christian online media outlets transformed over the last 5-6 years into one that is explicitly on team Trump, eschewing much of its founding journalistic and theological principles. We also delve into other topics such as how the oft-quoted 81% support for Trump among Evangelicals is a myth. Among other issues we explored, Napp shared a thought-provoking assessment of how Trump/Trumpism has actually inflicted long term damage to the pro-life movement.
Napp Nazworth has a PhD in Political Science with the focus of his dissertation on the Christian Right. After working for a number of years in academia, Napp went on to be the Politics Editor and Political Analyst for the Christian Post for 8 ½ years before he had to part ways with the organization after they “sold their soul to Trump” as Napp described it. Dr. Nazworth is now the Executive Director of the American Values Coalition which is “a growing community of Americans empowered to lead with truth, reject extremism and misinformation, and defend democracy.”

Monday Feb 21, 2022
Monday Feb 21, 2022
Josh Lewis is concerned about the problems of "...the loneliness epidemic and loss of genuine community, a rapidly changing job market that threatens our ability to earn a living, nearly insurmountable debt, and growing polarization," among others. Josh also believes conservatism provides a cogent framework to address these issues effectively. Unfortunately, the word conservative has been co-opted by many who are not conservative at all including the alt-right, Christian nationalists and "a cult of personality that surrounds Donald Trump."
That's why Josh started the Saving Elephants Blog and the Saving Elephants Podcast several years ago. The podcast and blog serve as a platform devoted to saving the Republican party as it faces the twin threats of demagoguery from within and looming extinction at the hands of demographic trends from without. The mission is to ensure true conservatism not only survives but thrives in the 21st century. But first, it has to be reclaimed from those who've hijacked the label.

Monday Feb 14, 2022
Monday Feb 14, 2022
Josh Good is the Director of Faith Angle Forum, a program of the Ethics and Public Policy Center which aims to strengthen reporting and commentary on how religious believers, religious convictions, and religiously grounded moral arguments affect American politics and public life.
We discuss the concept of covenantal pluralism; how locked in our feedback bubbles we are; some of the obstacles to the business of journalism; how local journalism has dried up and how that's affected our communities.

Monday Feb 07, 2022
Monday Feb 07, 2022
Candice Marie Benbow is a multi-genre theologian who was named by Sojourners as one of “10 Christian Women Shaping the Church in 2020”, Candice has written for various outlets including The Grio, ESSENCE Magazine, Glamour Magazine, The Root, VICE, Shondaland, MadameNoire and the Me Too Movement. Convergent Books has just published her first book, Red Lip Theology: For Church Girls Who’ve Considered Tithing to the Beauty Supply Store When Sunday Morning Isn’t Enough. Candice is also involved in numerous charitable organizations including one she founded in her mother’s memory, The LouiseMarie Foundation which supports HBCU nursing students.
We discuss what it means to be a multi-genre theologian; how the death of Whitney Houston influenced the questions she grappled with at Duke Divinity School; how we as a culture are doing in terms of mental health; living with grief; her book RED LIP THEOLOGY and what that is; assigning gender to God; giving each other grace; and so much more.

Monday Jan 31, 2022
Monday Jan 31, 2022
Andrew Regalado is Legislative Assistant in the office of U.S. Congressman Adam Kinzinger of Illinois. Andrew is also the Grassroots Director of Country First, a Political Action Committee that is a home for reasonable people of goodwill, seeking common ground to make our country better for future generations.
We discuss how Andrew began to develop his political views, how he charted the first chapters of his career and why he gravitated to a leader like Rep. Kinzinger. We also discuss Country 1st and how the organization is addressing the priorities of “Opportunity for All, Climate and Conservation, Mental Health and a Culture of Service.”

Monday Jan 24, 2022
Monday Jan 24, 2022
Matt Lewis is a senior columnist for The Daily Beast. His work has appeared in The Wall Street Journal, GQ, The Washington Post and he's a regular contributor on MSNBC, CNN, PBS NewsHour, HBO’s “Real Time with Bill Maher,” and CBS News’ “Face The Nation.” He also dissects the day’s issues in conversations with other thinkers, authors, and newsmakers on his podcast Matt Lewis and the News.
In this conversation, we cover a lot of ground. We discuss Matt’s book Too Dumb to Fail: How the GOP Went from the Party of Reagan to the Party of Trump; what it was like to work for Tucker Carlson; how his views of Sarah Palin have evolved; whether we can find our way out of this cold civil war; plus we go pretty deep into method acting and hair care!

Monday Jan 10, 2022
Monday Jan 10, 2022
Curtis Chang is Founder of Redeeming Babel, which provides “biblical thinking in a confusing world,” and co-hosts the podcast GOOD FAITH with David French. He has won a White House award for social innovation, consulted with the State Dept. and multiple MacArthur Fellowship Genius Grant winners, teaches strategic planning at American Univ. in D.C., is Sr. Fellow at Fuller Theological Seminary and is consulting faculty at Duke Divinity School. We discuss vaccines, institutions, anxiety, redemption and more.

Monday Jan 03, 2022
RBG’S BRAVE & BRILLIANT WOMEN by Nadine Epstein
Monday Jan 03, 2022
Monday Jan 03, 2022
Nadine Epstein is Editor-in-Chief of MOMENT MAGAZINE which was co-founded by Nobel Peace Prize recipient Elie Wiesel. Nadine is also Founder and Executive Director of the Center for Creative Change, the Founder of the Daniel Pearl Investigative Journalism Initiative and has now launched the Role Model Project which was established in memory of her dear friend Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, with whom she collaborated on Nadine’s latest book RBG’S BRAVE & BRILLIANT WOMEN: 33 Jewish Women to Inspire Everyone.

Thursday Dec 30, 2021
Dr. Sameer Yadav on the Roots of Christian and Secular Racism
Thursday Dec 30, 2021
Thursday Dec 30, 2021
Dr. Sameer Yadav, Associate Professor of Religious Studies at Westmont College, discusses his trajectory from being raised by immigrant Hindu parents in rural Idaho to becoming a conservative Christian, finding himself at odds with fundamentalist teaching while doing his first Masters degree (including how his experience at a certain hardcore conservative college was akin to farting in an elevator), his critique of "The Bible Says, I Believe It, That Settles It," the origins of Christian and secular racism, reckoning with insurrectionists invoking the name of Jesus, and other heresies occurring in America today. Sameer earned a Masters Degree from Yale Divinity School and his doctorate in theology and ethics from Duke Divinity School. He’s a prolific writer, his dissertation being adapted and expanded for his first book The Problem of Perception and the Experience of God and has been published in a numerous academic and theological journals. He is multilingual and understands Aramaic, Greek, Hebrew, French, German and rumor has it he’s studying Na’vi in anticipation of the upcoming Avatar movies.

Tuesday Dec 28, 2021
The Franklin Project Co-Executive Directors, Erin Dobson and Greg Jenkins
Tuesday Dec 28, 2021
Tuesday Dec 28, 2021
The Franklin Project was started for folks who are “unafraid of a diversity of opinions; want our elected representatives to work together to get things done; and want the shrieking, shrill, dangerous extremist voices to quiet down so that the rest of us can be heard.” Erin Dobson and Greg Jenkins both have experience at the highest levels of politics and the corporate world. Now, with the Franklin Project, they are "dedicated to promoting true American values of democracy and civility. Through the Democracy Corps we engage and empower everyday people to become extraordinary defenders of a more perfect union."

Sunday Dec 26, 2021
Dr. Russell Moore: Standing Firm on Ethics No Matter the Cost
Sunday Dec 26, 2021
Sunday Dec 26, 2021
Many know Dr. Russell Moore from his 8 year tenure leading the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention before his high profile exit due to his opposition to Donald Trump and the SBC’s differences with how to handle issues such as sexual abuse and race relations. Currently, Dr. Moore is Public Theologian at Christianity Today and Director of Christianity Today’s Public Theology Project. He is the author of several books, most recently The Courage to Stand: Facing Your Fear Without Losing Your Soul. He also hosts The Russell Moore Show and shares essays through his newsletter.

Wednesday Dec 22, 2021
NAACP Sr. Vice President of Strategy and Advancement, Jamal Watkins
Wednesday Dec 22, 2021
Wednesday Dec 22, 2021
Jamal Watkins is SVP of Strategy and Advancement at the NAACP. Prior to NAACP, he held leadership positions with a number of organizations dedicated to community organizing and civil and human rights. In this discussion we explore important topics including how NAACP carried out its mission through the many challenges of 2020; how the Association is helping to protect against attacks on voting rights (fightingforourvote.org); and how to talk about race in a meaningful way without it dividing us immediately.

Monday Dec 20, 2021
Monday Dec 20, 2021
Sarah Isgur, staff writer at The Dispatch and host of its flagship podcast as well as Advisory Opinions with David French, has served on 3 presidential campaigns and in 3 branches of government. Sarah is a graduate of Harvard Law School where she was president of the Harvard Federalist Society and is a veteran of the U.S. Department of Justice. We cover a lot of ground in this energetic conversation from her youth in rural Texas and going on birding excursions around the world; the viability of a center-right non-Trumpian coalition; whether pro-insurrectionist votes by members of Congress will matter in 2022; how a principled, intelligent public servant was able to function in a Trump administration; and many other "buckets" of juicy behind-the-scenes tidbits about the real Washington, D.C.

Monday Dec 13, 2021
Former U.S. Congressman and Presidential Candidate: Joe Walsh
Monday Dec 13, 2021
Monday Dec 13, 2021
As described on his new podcast, “Joe Walsh is a former U.S. Congressman, a former Presidential candidate, a radio host, and a man whose personal mission is to LISTEN. With WHITE FLAG with JOE WALSH, he surrenders the urge to fight and strives to find a path to unite, not divide.” Walsh is also the author of a book with one of our favorite titles ever: F*CK SILENCE: CALLING TRUMP OUT FOR THE CULTISH, MORONIC, AUTHORITARIAN CON MAN HE IS.

Monday Dec 06, 2021
Everything Just Changed with Brad Edwards and Bryce Hales
Monday Dec 06, 2021
Monday Dec 06, 2021
Brad Edwards and Bryce Hales are co-hosts of Everything Just Changed, a podcast about good faith participation in community, grace-saturated conversations and committed to the common good. Their podcast has impressive, engaging guests and they have a knack for exploring the most relevant topics in thought-provoking ways. Brad and Bryce are also pastors at The Table Church which is, “rooted in selfless love for our fellow man to such a degree that we are never fully able to achieve it… a humble hypocrisy."

Monday Nov 29, 2021
Monday Nov 29, 2021
Ron Steslow is the founder and host of Politicology, a leading voice in the fight against attacks on democracy in America and around the globe. Ron was a rising star in Republican politics before leaving the party in 2016. In 2019, he co-founded The Lincoln Project to lead its renowned marketing operation to defeat Trump and Trumpism. Just last year, Ron was named one of Fortune Magazine’s Top 40 Under 40 in Government and Politics.
We cover a lot of ground in this dialogue, including Ron's own amazing journey, identity politics, redistricting, the threats to democracy we currently face and a wonderful non-profit Ron supports called Oriented to Love.
So cool to have been able to record this conversation in-person on the campus of BOND, a leading entertainment marketing agency that consists of some of the most wonderful artists, innovators and creators we know.
https://politicology.com/
https://bit.ly/Oriented_to_Love
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Sunday Nov 21, 2021
Sunday Nov 21, 2021
From social worker to small business owner to champion for other small businesses to political candidate, Selina Thomas (linktr.ee/selinathomas) is on quite a journey. Indeed, Selina is the first woman of color to be a candidate for City Council in Santa Clarita. On this episode we discuss how she ran toward the challenges small businesses have had to overcome over the last couple years, how she’s been able to answer skepticism and even hateful prejudice with grace, why she chose to run for elected office and much more.

Monday Nov 15, 2021
Douglas Johnston, ”The Father of Faith-based Diplomacy”
Monday Nov 15, 2021
Monday Nov 15, 2021
Known as “the Father of Faith-based Diplomacy,” Douglas Johnston has been in the room with such figures as Henry Kissinger and Robert McNamara, and experienced coming under fire from extremists while trying to negotiate peace in the Middle East. Doug is the Pres. Emeritus and Founder of the International Center for Religion and Diplomacy. He is the author of numerous books on faith and diplomacy, most recently an in-depth memoir, Mountaintops and Mai Tais. He is also a graduate of the Naval Academy and holds a Masters and PhD from Harvard Univ. He has served in senior positions in government, the military and the private sector, including six years at Harvard where he taught int’l. affairs and was founding director of the university's Exec. Program in Nat’l. and Int’l. Security.

Monday Nov 01, 2021
Monday Nov 01, 2021
There is still great journalism and excellent reporters contributing to our public square. One such newsman is Jake Sherman, co-founder of Punchbowl News, a daily news service focusing on Congress. After 11 years at Politico, Jake started Punchbowl with Anna Palmer and John Bresnahan. He also co-authored The Hill to Die On: The Battle for Congress and the Future of Trump’s America, which covers the extraordinary period in politics from 2016 to 2018. We discuss what it takes to be a good reporter, what it was like to be in the Capitol on January 6th, what’s happening in Congress today along with some projections for the road ahead.

Thursday Oct 28, 2021
Thursday Oct 28, 2021
Jack Taggart is right at the cutoff between the Millenial and GenZ generations. He’s also part of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, aka the Mormon Church. In this conversation, we explore what distinguishes the LDS church from other religions and hear some perspectives from a guy who’s a late Millennial early Gen Z. Jack also has a really cool podcast called “The Moderate Review” where he has civil discussions with folks who have different perspectives on any number of topics. Plus Jack asks Corey a few questions at the end and then we get a little podcast geeky!

Monday Oct 25, 2021
Monday Oct 25, 2021
Bill Kristol is editor at large of The Bulwark; host of the podcast Conversations with Bill Kristol; and Chairman of the Board of the Republican Accountability Project. In this conversation, we discuss neoconservatism; the diversity of people and perspectives at Harvard; what happened to Tucker Carlson since his time at the Weekly Standard; whether isolationism and bigotry have taken hold; what we should read into recent special elections; and where we go from here.

Monday Oct 11, 2021
3 Ways (or more) to be a Youth Ministry Maverick with Jeff Harding
Monday Oct 11, 2021
Monday Oct 11, 2021
Jeff Harding is the Area Coordinator at National Network of Youth Ministries, which means he’s a leader of leaders; he is also Youth Minister at Trinity Fellowship Church; and is the Founder and Host of the Youth Ministry Maverick Podcast. We discuss some of the unique challenges youth face today, the divide of social and political leanings between Gen Z and their parents’ age groups (Gen X), and how to engage with the “Biggest generation ever, with the shortest attention span ever.”

Monday Oct 04, 2021
Monday Oct 04, 2021
Will Wright and Josh Burtram are the hosts of Faithful Politics where they talk to experts, scholars, theologians, politicians, journalists, and everyday people in order to understand how political decisions affect people of faith and the faithless and are “proving that it is much more rewarding to discuss topics in an effort to understand each other rather than just score points.” Will Wright, a lifelong student of politics who enlisted in the Army after 9/11 and traveled the world as a consultant after his time in the service, is a former atheist, disabled Veteran, and African-Asian American whose political views tend to be more Liberal Progressive; Josh Burtram, who has traditionally stayed out of the political environment is a full-time Pastor at Short Pump Community Church outside of Richmond, Virginia and is a Conservative Republican, who has a heart and passion for theology.

Monday Sep 27, 2021
Monday Sep 27, 2021
Michael Wear served in the Obama White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships from 2009-2012, and led religious outreach for Pres. Obama’s re-election campaign. In 2020, Michael was Sr. Advisor to Not Our Faith PAC, a bipartisan effort that made a Christian case against re-electing Donald Trump. Today, Michael is the founder of Public Square Strategies, a consulting firm at the intersection of faith and public life. Michael is also Sr. Fellow at The Trinity Forum, and has written for The N.Y. Times, Washington Post, The Atlantic, Christianity Today and other major publications. He is an author of, among other contributions, Reclaiming Hope, and has a newsletter of the same name, as well as a recent report he co-wrote for Trinity titled Christianity, Pluralism, and Public Life in the United States.

Monday Sep 20, 2021
Monday Sep 20, 2021
In this conversation, we get to see “inside the room” to learn how decisions at the highest levels of our military and government get made. We get to hear how folks who spent a lifetime serving our country processed personal decisions of working for and then leaving the Trump Administration. David Lapan served more than 30 years in the U.S. Marine Corps, retiring in 2015 as a colonel. Col. Lapan is a fellow at the Bipartisan Policy Center in Washington, D.C. and was most recently the spokesperson under Secretary John Kelly at the Dept. of Homeland Security. Prior to that, our guest was spokesperson for several Secretaries of Defense; the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; the Commander, Int’l. Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and U.S. Forces – Afghanistan; and for multinational forces during military operations in Haiti and Iraq. Dave also volunteers with Tragedy Assistance Program For Survivors (TAPS), a great organization that cares for the families of America’s fallen heroes.

Thursday Sep 16, 2021
Talkin‘ WATER with SCV Water Agency Board Member, Beth Braunstein
Thursday Sep 16, 2021
Thursday Sep 16, 2021
Beth Braunstein was elected to be a Director on the SCV Water Board which provides “responsible water stewardship to ensure the Santa Clarita Valley has reliable supplies of high quality water at a reasonable cost.” We discuss water shortages, how an area like SCV is able to source water, how to provide safe water as well as strategies of conserving water. We also branch out into subjects like what prompted Beth as an engaged citizen to run for elected office and even get into some other political issues.

Monday Sep 13, 2021
Odell Cleveland and Bill Goebel Are Finding Common Ground
Monday Sep 13, 2021
Monday Sep 13, 2021
Bill Goebel and Odell Cleveland are the co-hosts of Bill & Odell Are Finding Common Ground. As they describe it, “One Republican, one Democrat, one black, one white, both devoted Christians that love the Lord and one another!” In this conversation, we discuss how two fellows with very different backgrounds and many differing viewpoints have been able to find common ground on some of the most challenging issues from race to politics to religion and everything in between.
Check out Bill and Odell’s program here: http://www.thecommonground.show/
And here’s a great non-profit they support: https://youthofnc.com/

Tuesday Sep 07, 2021
Tuesday Sep 07, 2021
James Patton, CEO of International Center for Religion and Diplomacy joins TPandR along with colleague, Loujain Kiki, to discuss the economic roots of extremism and how their efforts to counter violence overseas are returning home to address our domestic divides. We cover how to prepare a community for the influx of refugees from Afghanistan and why American xenophobia is on the rise. Perhaps most important of all, we explore how religious understanding is an underutilized tool in diplomacy and peace-making.
For more information on ICRD: www.icrd.org
Register here for their annual Faith in Action Awards dinner on September 23, 2021.
To discover Center for Women Faith & Leadership: http://www.centerforwomenfaithandleadership.org/

Monday Aug 23, 2021
Monday Aug 23, 2021
Hear how Craig Snyder (R), candidate for U.S. Senate, answers whether Donald Trump lost the 2020 election. It's different from what we've come to expect in politics today. We also discuss Craig's upbringing in Philadelphia; the formative years at U. Penn and Temple Law; being Sen. Arlen Specter's Chief of Staff; bringing leaders of diverse views together as head of World Affairs Council of Phila.; and where he stands on current issues incl. CRT, vaccines, Afghanistan, LGBTQ rights and more.
www.craigsnyderforsenate.com

Monday Aug 16, 2021
Del Walters: "We can't talk anymore without being afraid of what we say."
Monday Aug 16, 2021
Monday Aug 16, 2021
Del Walters is the Washington Bureau Chief of the Black News Channel. Del hails from Wheeling, West Virginia, where he was the first African American on local television news. Del has reported on American racial justice for more than 40 years, ranging from infiltrating the Ku Klux Klan to outting Nazi Theodore Benzinger who conducted high altitude experiments on Jews. Del joins Jessica and Corey to drill down on race, wokeism and the politics and religion of the African American community.
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Monday Aug 02, 2021
Monday Aug 02, 2021
Matthew Colwell is Pastor of Knox Presbyterian Church in Pasadena CA and also the co-author of Our God is Undocumented: Biblical Faith and Immigrant Justice. Matt earned his Masters Degree in Divinity from Fuller Theological Seminary, his Doctorate from San Francisco Theological Seminary, and is also the author of Sabbath Economics: Household Practices. We discuss economic and military policies that result in "tempest tossed" populations and how the Bible does not support "closed door" policies. Matt also shares stories of some inspiring human beings who are involved in immigrant justice.

Monday Jul 26, 2021
Monday Jul 26, 2021
Dennis Quinn, of the Pew Research Center, is the Computational Social Scientist who was the Primary Researcher on their recent analysis PASTORS OFTEN DISCUSSED ELECTION, PANDEMIC AND RACISM IN FALL OF 2020. We get great insights into what subjects were being covered in America's churches during election season, how 4 of the largest groups of churches were discussing those subjects and the stark differences among Evangelical Protestant, Mainline Protestant, Historically Black Protestant and Catholic churches... and wow! There really were some huge differences. Plus we get into some adjacent subjects like how quality polling is done, how machine learning is used to do more comprehensive analysis and we decided what we'll be putting on the first set of TP&R t-shirts! #RelTrad

Monday Jul 19, 2021
Mike Madrid: Changing the outcomes of campaigns for 30 years
Monday Jul 19, 2021
Monday Jul 19, 2021
With deep roots in Republican politics, Mike Madrid has now been on the front lines of defeating Trump and Trumpism. A graduate of Georgetown University and one of America's leading Latino political strategists, Mike has been changing the outcomes of Presidential, gubernatorial, congressional and local campaigns for 30 years. "Strategist, Entrepreneur, Teacher and Artist," Mike serves on the Board of the American Association of Political Consultants, co-founded the Lincoln Project, is a partner at GrassrootsLab and hosts the Americanata Podcast.

Tuesday Jul 13, 2021
Tuesday Jul 13, 2021
Edward-Isaac Dovere is staff writer at the Atlantic and author of the most authoritative account of the Democrats’ presidential campaigns of 2020, Battle for the Soul. In this conversation, Corey and Jessica dive into the book as well as Isaac's professional trajectory and his views on the current political landscape. In our discussion of the book, we learn intimate details of many of the candidates and their campaign teams including Kamala Harris, Mayor Pete, Bernie and, of course, Joe Biden.