Politics and Religion. We’re not supposed to talk about that, right? Wrong! We only say that nowadays because the loudest, most extreme voices have taken over the whole conversation. Well, we‘re taking some of that space back! If you’re dying for some dialogue instead of all the yelling; if you know it’s okay to have differences without having to hate each other; if you believe politics and religion are too important to let ”the screamers” drown out the rest of us and would love some engaging, provocative and fun conversations about this stuff, then ”Talkin‘ Politics & Religion Without Killin‘ Each Other” is for you!
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This conversation was recorded in December, in the aftermath of a deadly antisemitic attack at a Hanukkah celebration in Australia and before subsequent escalations by the Trump administration, including actions involving Venezuela.
If you’re joining us via Pocket Casts, welcome—this show brings journalists, scholars, and public figures together for conversations across disagreement without turning each other into caricatures and shouting past one another.
Former Congressman Joe Walsh returns to Talkin’ Politics & Religion Without Killin’ Each Other for a wide-ranging, unflinching conversation about democracy, moral responsibility, and what it means to resist authoritarianism without losing our humanity.
Joe and Corey reflect on rising antisemitism, political violence, and the dangerous normalization of cruelty in American public life. From Trump’s character — and why it does matter — to the failures of both political parties, to the fear gripping immigrant communities across the country, this episode asks a hard but necessary question:
What do we owe each other now?
Joe speaks candidly about his journey from Tea Party firebrand to Democrat; the moral breaking points that forced him to leave MAGA; and why he believes understanding matters more than “finding common ground.” He also shares hard-earned lessons from years of engaging people across divides — including why the most important conversations almost always happen off-camera and one-on-one.
The conversation also explores Joe’s newest project, PAXIS, an initiative designed to provide real-time tools, information, and protection for immigrant communities targeted by ICE. Rather than merely reacting to injustice, Joe argues, we must build infrastructure for resistance that ordinary people can actually use.
✅ Learn more about or support PAXIS: paxis.app
This is not a tidy conversation.
It’s not meant to be.
It’s a human one.
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About the Guest:
Joe Walsh is a former U.S. Congressman, former Republican presidential candidate, and former nationally syndicated conservative radio host who has become one of the most outspoken critics of MAGA authoritarianism. He is the host of The Social Contract podcast and a leading voice calling for moral clarity, democratic accountability, and citizen engagement across political divides.
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Talking across differences doesn’t require agreement.
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