Politics and Religion. We’re not supposed to talk about that, right? Wrong! We only say that nowadays because the loudest, most extreme voices have taken over the whole conversation. Well, we‘re taking some of that space back! If you’re dying for some dialogue instead of all the yelling; if you know it’s okay to have differences without having to hate each other; if you believe politics and religion are too important to let ”the screamers” drown out the rest of us and would love some engaging, provocative and fun conversations about this stuff, then ”Talkin‘ Politics & Religion Without Killin‘ Each Other” is for you!
Episodes
Tuesday Sep 02, 2025
Tuesday Sep 02, 2025
What happens when law firms, universities, and elections come under fire—and how we can all help hold the line for democracy.
🧭 Episode Summary
In this timely and incisive conversation, Daniel Weiner, a leading legal expert on democracy and rule of law, joins host Corey Nathan to unpack the rising authoritarian tendencies in the U.S., how democratic institutions are responding, and why legal guardrails are more critical than ever. Daniel, who serves as Director of the Brennan Center's Elections and Government Program, discusses the fragility of civil society, the weaponization of government power, and practical steps citizens and institutions can take to uphold democracy.
They also dive into:
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The ethical obligations of law firms under pressure
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Harvard University's legal pushback against the federal government
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Election integrity in 2026 and 2028
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Gerrymandering, Project 2025, and the role of independent commissions
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How regular folks can be part of the pro-democracy coalition
This is a must-listen episode for anyone concerned about the future of American democracy and looking for informed, balanced, and actionable insights.
⏰ Timestamps & Key Topics
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[00:00:00] Introduction to Daniel Weiner and his work at the Brennan Center
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[00:04:00] Harvard's legal fight over academic freedom and federal funding
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[00:06:30] Defining authoritarianism: Legal vs. rhetorical retribution
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[00:11:00] What should law firms and universities do under federal threats?
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[00:15:00] Daniel's journey from historian to legal advocate for democracy
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[00:18:00] The ethics of mid-decade redistricting in Texas vs. California
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[00:22:00] Why national standards for elections are necessary
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[00:30:00] The mission and work of the Brennan Center for Justice
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[00:33:00] Concerns for election integrity in 2026 and 2028
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[00:40:00] Should the U.S. move toward national election administration?
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[00:47:00] The vertical balance of power: Governors vs. federal overreach
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[00:54:00] The Trump administration’s push to fire a Federal Reserve governor
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[01:03:00] What each of us can do to protect democracy
💡 Notable Quotes
“When you look at what staves off authoritarianism... free and fair elections are critical, but civil society—including universities and nonprofits—is a bulwark.” – Daniel Weiner
“It’s legal and appropriate for administrations to enforce the law, but when power is deployed arbitrarily as political retribution, that’s authoritarianism.” – Daniel Weiner
“We need to learn how to sit with people who vote differently than us—not to rehearse rebuttals, but to ask questions and seek understanding.” – Corey Nathan
“Until we get national solutions to gerrymandering, we’ll continue to see tit-for-tat behavior across states.” – Daniel Weiner
🛠️ Resources & References
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🏛️ Brennan Center for Justice: www.brennancenter.org
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📘 Michael Waldman’s Newsletters (President of the Brennan Center) - www.brennancenter.org/about/leadership/michael-waldman
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📖 Project 2025 – Heritage Foundation’s proposed government overhaul
- 📚 Federalist Papers and Emoluments Clauses (context on presidential ethics) - guides.loc.gov/federalist-papers/full-text
🗣️ Connect with the Guest
Daniel Weiner
🔹 Director, Elections & Government Program, Brennan Center
🔹 Twitter / X - x.com/DanWeiner329
🔹 Bluesky - bsky.app/profile/danw329.bsky.social
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